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An interview with Michael Bishop

by Kilian Melloy

INTRODUCTION

Michael Bishop is principally known for his speculative fiction, but to those familiar with his work it will come as no shock that he is also a poet whose work has appeared in publications as diverse as The Georgia Review and The Anthology of Speculative Poetry (Volume Three). An early collection of his poetry, Windows & Mirrors, epitomized the phrase 'slim volume,' being a chapbook limited to a run of 100 copies; a more recent volume of Bishop's verse, Time Pieces, had a somewhat larger printing. But there's a definite flavor and touch of the poetic to Bishop's writing even when he's not composing verse. Indeed, the virtues of poetry infuse his prose efforts: his story-craft is disciplined, euphonous, with even his longer works evincing a certain spareness and economy. Most mysterious is how Bishop pulls a story from notional mist, seeming to create it before the reader's eyes.

In the 2000 collection of four novellas, Blue Kansas Sky, Bishop spins his long-form tales from a kind of magical silk: a humming, unhurried, and gorgeously shapeful story is the end result each time. The kinship between the novella Cri de Coeur and the poetry that appears within the story in unmistakeable. In a kind of haiku showdown, two characters, Gwiazda and Sharif, frame their observations of the vast sky their ships move through, and sketch the universe, and their place within it, in a scant few lines, but the effortless grace of those stanzas echoes throughout the work as a whole. (Bishop recruited another writer and poet, Geoffrey A. Landis, to supply Sharif's haiku.) In the book's title novella -- nominated for the 2001 World Fantasy Award -- no verse appears as such, but the imagery stuns. Bishop writes of a boy entering adolescence, "Sleep he loved. He slept like a seed, continually probing and reorienting throughout the night." Just that simply, Bishop hits a multitude of nails on their heads: he nails the character, the story's coming-of-age tone and theme, and especially the very nature of adolescence. James Morrow, who wrote the collection's Introduction, declares that the final line of Blue Kansas Sky made him cry; one wonders how he got that far before shedding a tear at the pure skill and intrinsic poetry evident on each page.

Bishop's new collection, Brighten to Incandescence, repeats this astonishing trick over and over again in the course of its seventeen selections. Brighten to Incandescence: 17 Stories by Michael Bishop"Thirteen Lies About Hummingbirds" takes on an initially light-hearted courtship and follows it through its first fresh, inventive throes of happy intimacy and -- with a steadily darkening tone -- into a nightmare of visions and supernatural menace. Turn by turn, the story's atmosphere chills and suspense rises: how does Bishop do it?

"Chihuahua Flats" (available elsewhere in infinity plus) accomplishes a similar feat, though this time leading the reader not into ghostly horror, but rather through a tender love story graced by devotion that survives to recur in a visitation from beyond the grave. In the story, Bishop carefully creates a balance, and a creative tension, between the mundane particulars -- he sells dog food, she runs a Chihuahua farm; he falls in love with her green eyes and graceful figure, she with his raw-boned earnest nature -- and the unlikely climax, when a hovering shade (dressed up in a "haltertop, pedal pushers, and a wavery cape") appears to the bereaved husband to offer him a source of constant solace. Again, the exact method -- the specific locus from which the story's conviction, and ability to convince, emanate -- is somehow just out of sight, and yet present in each line.

There are a few stories in Brighten to Incandescence that embrace familiar science fiction scenarios -- time travelers end up as dinosaur food, leaving their children to fend for themselves in "Herding With Hadrosaurs," while in "Murder on Lupozny Station," an alien / human duo unravel a deep-space whodunit -- and there are a few tales that flirt with the conventions of speculative fiction, to revealing and self-satirising effect ("O Happy Day" is both a reversal of the accepted order of things and a rueful rumination on the cornucopia of life's frustrations and challenges that we like to call the rat race; meantime, "Simply Indispensible" is probably the funniest Aliens-As-God / Aliens-Bring-Doomsday riff ever), but many of these selections defy easy categorization. In "Sequel On Skorpiós," Bishop explores the idea that Christ's death and resurrection were cleverly staged -- only to turn the plot on its head in miraculous fashion. "Tithes of Mint and Rue" follows a former beauty as she flees the home town she's grown oh-so-tired of living in and joins a carnival, with extraordinary phenomena seeming to guide her way. And "The Tigers of Hysteria Feed Only on Themselves" is a wonderful compound of plot and setting, combining the uneasy psychology of horror with a sidelong look at American involvement in Vietnam -- a ferocious combination in Bishop's charge.

Perhaps the most compelling of the seventeen stories in Brighten to Incandescence is "Last Night Out," in which Bishop ventures into perhaps the most alien of any alien realm: the mind of one of the 9/11 terrorists, out for a final Earthly sojourn (in a strip bar, of all places) on the eve of September 10. There are many disquieting aspects and elements to this story -- the point of view, the discord between the terrorist's 'holy' mission and the seedy environment in which he finds himself, and -- most jarring, most fascinating -- the seemingly cynical, almost paradoxical attitude of his fellow terrorist, whose idea the visit to the strip bar is: "Good women are obedient," the narrator's companion states, as women dance and titillate; "Give them money and they'll do almost anything you ask." The so-called clash of cultures has never resounded so mightily as in this short and, in some ways, difficult work. It is a staggering accomplishment of imagination -- and, strange to say, of compassion.

Michael Bishop consented to an interview via email recently, in which he chatted about his new collection and its attendant concerns, among them religious faith, art, and a smattering of rock and roll.

THE INTERVIEW

Kilian Melloy: Your new collection, Brighten to Incandescence, gathers works that have never been included in a book of your stories before. In your Notes, you mention that you and editor Marty Halpern selected the stories according to their quality, and, to a degree, according to the whim of the moment. If you could change the table of contents for Brighten to Incandescence now, what would you leave out -- and what would you put in that didn't get included?

Michael Bishop: Actually, I pretty much like the collection as it stands. Marty Halpern had clear reasons for excluding certain pieces from this volume, and I tried to inhabit his point of view. For example, we did not include a story structured as a short drama -- "Spiritual Dysfunction and Counterangelic Longings; or, Sariela: A Case Study in One Act" -- because its format too closely resembled that of "Help Me, Rondo," a deliberate cross between a short story and a Hollywood screenplay. I believed that in a collection of the size of Brighten to Incandescence this slight similarity would not compromise either piece, but I agreed with Marty that "Help Me, Rondo" represented the more substantial effort, and I was not at all averse to giving way to his judgment. Let me note, too, that Marty put a good deal of thought into the order that the stories should fall in the text, weighing such matters as length, theme, tone, subject matter, and so on, and I think that the collection benefits tremendously from the play of contrasts and kinships evident in Marty's careful deployment of the various pieces.

KM: Some of the stories have been rewritten -- at least one of them fairly extensively -- for the new collection. Is it a common practice to revise short fiction when anthologizing?

MB: "Of Crystalline Labyrinths and the New Creation," my homage to and pastiche of R. A. Lafferty's short fiction, incorporates the most drastic revisions, almost all of them cuts. The story was grossly self-indulgent before, embarrassingly so, but now, after a severe line-by-line edit, I'm proud to lay claim to it again and happy to see the new version in print. Whether revising stories for publication in a collection is a common practice, however, I can't say. Clearly, gathering stories for a collection presents the author with a perfect opportunity to correct minor mistakes and to rethink and presumably eliminate elements that may have subtly, or conspicuously, marred the original version. Most of the changes that I made involved smoothing out obvious infelicities of style and tightening both my expository prose and my dialogue where they seemed insupportably slack. Still, a lot of the tweaking was minor.

KM: What role did your editor play in the revision of the stories? What does an editor actually do for a project like this, anyway?

MB: Marty, insofar as the revisions went, pretty much gave me the reins and let me run. But he is extraordinarily meticulous, always asking questions about word choices, spellings, my preferences in rephrasing an awkward or ambiguous sentence, and so on. In short, he worked with me in almost exactly the same way that the late Jim Turner, who founded Golden Gryphon Press after working for years for Arkham House, worked with me on my three books for Arkham, Blooded on Arachne, One Winter in Eden, and Who Made Stevie Crye? And I can't think of higher praise than that. I understand from other writers who have worked with Jim's brother, Gary Turner, that Gary is just as meticulous. The books that they have produced at Golden Gryphon reflect this close attention to detail and virtually shine as library-worthy artifacts.

KM: Given your occasionally minimalist punctuation and deft hand at naturalistic dialogue, Marty must possess a rapport with your writerly intentions that borders on telepathy. I think you even mention in your Notes something about other editors wrangling with you over punctuation issues.

MB: Actually, that doesn't happen often. Ed Ferman wanted me to place quotation marks around dialogue that I had inserted into the text naked, so to speak, and I complied because I was a young writer and didn't care to jeopardize a sale by insisting on my own way. Marty doesn't make that many suggestions, if I'm remembering this aright, about changes for my dialogue, and I don't think either one of us feels particularly "telepathic." We just do a lot of careful communicating, and he instigates the bulk of it because he is so careful about scrutinizing both my manuscripts (or e-mailed documents) and the proofs that we get back from Golden Gryphon's typesetter.

KM: How did you develop such a down-to-earth style of dialogue while avoiding a forced or artificial feel?

MB: Listening to people talk, and registering the way they talk, is a key. Recently, Jeri and I visited the small North Georgia town of Ellijay (which crops up in a poem by the late James Dickey), and we entered a dress shop in its business district because the shop is called Jeri's, and we seldom encounter the name "Jeri" exactly as my wife spells it. The woman running the shop willingly spoke to us about her business. She admitted that she was not the Jeri for whom it had been named. The shop had previously belonged to a woman named Geraldine, who had decided to call the place Jeri's (instead of Geraldine's or Geri's) because the spelling struck her as unusual and presumably more memorable. She then told us about how she had been working for an automobile dealership in town, but wanted a new occupation because the boss's